How to throw away a good country
Re: Geert Wilders 2/8/2009
How to throw away a decent world.
Recently, a stalwart and historic member nation of the Western Democratic coalition, the Netherlands, one with a long history of tolerance and common sense, decided to breach one of the most basic tenets of democratic governance, "Freedom of Speech". Consequently, this development just adds to the possibility that Western civilization as we knew it, may indeed face its demise before long. For some time now the USA has become similarly ready to forbid some of our speech freedoms. Little worse could possibly befall our world if this were to happen, barring our total physical destruction.
Some time ago a rather well-known Dutch politician, named Geert Wilders, started a campaign to alert his countrymen to the serious potential dangers inherent in the ever growing presence of Middle Eastern people. Unfortunately, Mr. Wilders has done himself no favors by delivering his messages in a very stern, often un-diplomatic manner which caused some members of the Dutch parliament to try to have him expelled from his function. As a consequence, the government was instantly faced with the fact that "freedom of speech" is very much part of Dutch political life and history, just as it is in the USA, and refused to assent to the request. But the incident made Mr. Wilders much more politically visible, including a visit to the USA. A long Court case ensued and just recently Mr. Wilders was vindicated and restored to his Party's leadership role.
To impugn Mr. Wilders for making critical remarks at the address of the many practitioners of radical Islamism is illegal under our code of law as well. It may well have seemed offensive to the extremely thin-skinned Islamic radicals it is easy to forget a few things in the hullabaloo created by this incident.
These uninvited radical Islamic immigrants in the Netherlands not only became even more offensive, critical and abusive themselves to Jews, Hindus, Christianity and our whole western civilization. Millions of these people have willingly migrated into western Europe during the past 40 years under the guise of various professed reasons or excuses but once settled they actually have done precious little to demonstrate their interest in assimilating our western culture. They like using the Dutch social provisions and financial support structure but not the local work ethic. Yet they are well aware that they now have the right to worship the religion of their choice without impediment. But, with the exception of a few individuals they have just become a loud, insolent political force in many European host countries, the governments of which have not had the courage nor conviction to deal quickly and effectively with this threat to their own political and legal systems and their own political stability.
Strangely, it appears that European politicians in particular seem to have lost touch with their own western culture of tolerance, hard work and respect for people to be able to live fruitful and peaceful lives. These politicians have become more and more intimidated by a group of radical Islamic interlopers whose objective is completely counter to what western culture is all about. Those people insist that their host countries allow them to do whatever their version of the "Q'uran" demands of them which is to live under their own set of religious laws known as Sharia while ignoring the local system of laws and civility. They claim the right to insult anything and anyone who says or does something that offends them while they allow themselves the right to kill, maim, abuse and destroy anything western that gets in their way.
I believe we have observed this cancerous spectacle long enough in the western world to know that this must be stopped quickly or western civilization will have entered its last century just a few years ago. Let's not forget that if a cancer isn't treated promptly and effectively it will overwhelm its victim.
All the experience, knowledge, convictions, spirit, commitments and sacrifices that have made Western civilization the magnet of many millions of people for hundreds of years, now needs to take a cold bath and come to its senses.
Except for a few courageous and critical Muslims who have sought refuge in the West
over the years to escape certain death in their homelands, nothing much of cultural, educational or spiritual value has emanated from the Middle Eastern countries for a very long time. If the western world had not discovered and developed their oil bonanza the Arab countries would still be camel riding Bedouins today. As it is, the current problem could become a conflict of cultures.
Oil has made all the difference in this conflict by financing the originally small group of King Saud's Wahabbi tribe radicals. During the past 7 or so decades their poisonous, militant, anti-Western and "anti-everybody who's not a Muslim culture of death" version of the original 8th century Quran, has now become a major threat to our civilization.
Mr. Wilders merely used his freedom of speech from his high office in the government to say the obvious things: "enough is enough, we need to return these misbehaving, unwanted, disloyal people (disloyal to their freely chosen western environments) to the Middle East and brook no negotation of the subject". Europe, and actually every western country that has a radical Islamist problem, should do the same thing. We need to recapture our own cultural heritage before it drowns in a radical Islamic tsunami.
There may well be some political and economic repercussions as a result of executing such a program but the Middle East needs to sell its oil to maintain its own operations, hence a common ground can undoubtedly be found to make it all happen. Once the radicals have been removed from the scene, the remaining Muslims should be willing to commit their loyalty to the Western country of their choice and residence, learn the local language and its social rules very well in order to seek the shortest path to full assimilation and citizenship.
If we fail to accomplish this, western civilization probably will be in jeopardy. That's what Mr. Wilders seems to be trying to tell his landsmen but they are not listening very well. The same is true for other countries which need to pay serious attention to this issue for their own respective sakes. In sum, the worst thing the Dutch government did under the circumstances was to prostitute its own sacred rules, laws and history by prosecuting Mr. Wilders for trying to save Western Civilization from itself. For shame!!
Now looking at the problem from Mr. Wilders' position to get his point of view across to the public and particularly to the media and politicians it seems to me that he should try to become more educational rather than confrontational. Facts, historical and political, will prevail where opinion fails. He needs to illuminate the critical nature of the problem of radical Islamism in the western world more fully and he needs to formulate an effective and credible response to it. That strikes me as a first priority, explaining in some meaningful depth the historic growth of this dangerous phenomenon. The weakened stance of original Islamic radicalism was first revived in the 14th century by a desire on the part of some fundamentalists that Islam should go back to its 7th century basics. The issue was allegedly first documented by Ahmad ibn 'Abd al-Halim Ibn Taymiyyah (1263-1328) and subsequently taken up by the Wahhabis (King Saud's tribe) and others. The message Mr. Wilders is attempting to convey to the public is indeed a painful one in its consequences for our western world and therefore needs to be delivered completely and persuasively but not in the manner of a loud accusatory ramble.
Only solid historic facts together with their logical political implications must be presented to make the public realize the dangers we are facing. All Western governments need to accept and prepare for the difficult task of permanently removing the undesirable elements from its midst and work to regain their own cultural inheritance. Failure to face up to these 2 requirements would mean much more than the end of western culture.
How to throw away a decent world.
Recently, a stalwart and historic member nation of the Western Democratic coalition, the Netherlands, one with a long history of tolerance and common sense, decided to breach one of the most basic tenets of democratic governance, "Freedom of Speech". Consequently, this development just adds to the possibility that Western civilization as we knew it, may indeed face its demise before long. For some time now the USA has become similarly ready to forbid some of our speech freedoms. Little worse could possibly befall our world if this were to happen, barring our total physical destruction.
Some time ago a rather well-known Dutch politician, named Geert Wilders, started a campaign to alert his countrymen to the serious potential dangers inherent in the ever growing presence of Middle Eastern people. Unfortunately, Mr. Wilders has done himself no favors by delivering his messages in a very stern, often un-diplomatic manner which caused some members of the Dutch parliament to try to have him expelled from his function. As a consequence, the government was instantly faced with the fact that "freedom of speech" is very much part of Dutch political life and history, just as it is in the USA, and refused to assent to the request. But the incident made Mr. Wilders much more politically visible, including a visit to the USA. A long Court case ensued and just recently Mr. Wilders was vindicated and restored to his Party's leadership role.
To impugn Mr. Wilders for making critical remarks at the address of the many practitioners of radical Islamism is illegal under our code of law as well. It may well have seemed offensive to the extremely thin-skinned Islamic radicals it is easy to forget a few things in the hullabaloo created by this incident.
These uninvited radical Islamic immigrants in the Netherlands not only became even more offensive, critical and abusive themselves to Jews, Hindus, Christianity and our whole western civilization. Millions of these people have willingly migrated into western Europe during the past 40 years under the guise of various professed reasons or excuses but once settled they actually have done precious little to demonstrate their interest in assimilating our western culture. They like using the Dutch social provisions and financial support structure but not the local work ethic. Yet they are well aware that they now have the right to worship the religion of their choice without impediment. But, with the exception of a few individuals they have just become a loud, insolent political force in many European host countries, the governments of which have not had the courage nor conviction to deal quickly and effectively with this threat to their own political and legal systems and their own political stability.
Strangely, it appears that European politicians in particular seem to have lost touch with their own western culture of tolerance, hard work and respect for people to be able to live fruitful and peaceful lives. These politicians have become more and more intimidated by a group of radical Islamic interlopers whose objective is completely counter to what western culture is all about. Those people insist that their host countries allow them to do whatever their version of the "Q'uran" demands of them which is to live under their own set of religious laws known as Sharia while ignoring the local system of laws and civility. They claim the right to insult anything and anyone who says or does something that offends them while they allow themselves the right to kill, maim, abuse and destroy anything western that gets in their way.
I believe we have observed this cancerous spectacle long enough in the western world to know that this must be stopped quickly or western civilization will have entered its last century just a few years ago. Let's not forget that if a cancer isn't treated promptly and effectively it will overwhelm its victim.
All the experience, knowledge, convictions, spirit, commitments and sacrifices that have made Western civilization the magnet of many millions of people for hundreds of years, now needs to take a cold bath and come to its senses.
Except for a few courageous and critical Muslims who have sought refuge in the West
over the years to escape certain death in their homelands, nothing much of cultural, educational or spiritual value has emanated from the Middle Eastern countries for a very long time. If the western world had not discovered and developed their oil bonanza the Arab countries would still be camel riding Bedouins today. As it is, the current problem could become a conflict of cultures.
Oil has made all the difference in this conflict by financing the originally small group of King Saud's Wahabbi tribe radicals. During the past 7 or so decades their poisonous, militant, anti-Western and "anti-everybody who's not a Muslim culture of death" version of the original 8th century Quran, has now become a major threat to our civilization.
Mr. Wilders merely used his freedom of speech from his high office in the government to say the obvious things: "enough is enough, we need to return these misbehaving, unwanted, disloyal people (disloyal to their freely chosen western environments) to the Middle East and brook no negotation of the subject". Europe, and actually every western country that has a radical Islamist problem, should do the same thing. We need to recapture our own cultural heritage before it drowns in a radical Islamic tsunami.
There may well be some political and economic repercussions as a result of executing such a program but the Middle East needs to sell its oil to maintain its own operations, hence a common ground can undoubtedly be found to make it all happen. Once the radicals have been removed from the scene, the remaining Muslims should be willing to commit their loyalty to the Western country of their choice and residence, learn the local language and its social rules very well in order to seek the shortest path to full assimilation and citizenship.
If we fail to accomplish this, western civilization probably will be in jeopardy. That's what Mr. Wilders seems to be trying to tell his landsmen but they are not listening very well. The same is true for other countries which need to pay serious attention to this issue for their own respective sakes. In sum, the worst thing the Dutch government did under the circumstances was to prostitute its own sacred rules, laws and history by prosecuting Mr. Wilders for trying to save Western Civilization from itself. For shame!!
Now looking at the problem from Mr. Wilders' position to get his point of view across to the public and particularly to the media and politicians it seems to me that he should try to become more educational rather than confrontational. Facts, historical and political, will prevail where opinion fails. He needs to illuminate the critical nature of the problem of radical Islamism in the western world more fully and he needs to formulate an effective and credible response to it. That strikes me as a first priority, explaining in some meaningful depth the historic growth of this dangerous phenomenon. The weakened stance of original Islamic radicalism was first revived in the 14th century by a desire on the part of some fundamentalists that Islam should go back to its 7th century basics. The issue was allegedly first documented by Ahmad ibn 'Abd al-Halim Ibn Taymiyyah (1263-1328) and subsequently taken up by the Wahhabis (King Saud's tribe) and others. The message Mr. Wilders is attempting to convey to the public is indeed a painful one in its consequences for our western world and therefore needs to be delivered completely and persuasively but not in the manner of a loud accusatory ramble.
Only solid historic facts together with their logical political implications must be presented to make the public realize the dangers we are facing. All Western governments need to accept and prepare for the difficult task of permanently removing the undesirable elements from its midst and work to regain their own cultural inheritance. Failure to face up to these 2 requirements would mean much more than the end of western culture.
posted by Schaesberg at 6:07 PM
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